Hexvision wrote:

Yes this is true but energy doesn't have instinct like animals.

Energy is whatever we choose it to be.  Remember where I'm coming from, 'There is only One'.

Noogs?  I honestly can't be clearer my friend .  I grew up in a meat eating environment, and that's what I was fed.  Many years later, I became a veggie for moral reasons.  3.5 years later, I changed back to meat eating, not because my morals had changed, but because of my life and circumstances.  I still eat meat.

Will I ever change back?  Probably.  When?  Who can say?  Am I concerned either way?  Nope.  Our actions effect our reality.  It creates our experiences!

You know the old saying, 'Do what I say, not as I do?'  Well, I'm a bit like that.  I can say to someone,

"Don't do that.  You'll hurt yourself".

"How do you know?"

"Because I do it all the time."

What makes sense to one may not make sense to another, but that's where the respect for individuality comes into it, even when we know there is simply variety of Self.  You with me?

Noogle wrote:

Okay 'vague' was the wrong word.  I meant 'wishy washy'. 

You callin' me a big girlie? lol

One can only try...

Skin wrote:

That [suggestion that eating meat was pivotal in the development of the human brain] might be a bit of an overstatement?

Not at all.

The human brain represents about 2.5% of our body weight, but accounts for 22% of our total energy expenditure.  Compare with anthropoid primates which use 8% of their energy for their brain, or other mammals which use 3-4%.

All this energy simply cannot have come from uncooked vegetables, and the human brain evolved to it's large and energy-intensive state long before the advent of agriculture (a mere 10,000 years ago, so the energy to power our brains could not have come from cereals or grains either.

Meat, with it's high calorific return, was the thing that allowed humans to spend more energy on their brains.

If early humans were vegetarians, we would never have evolved to a stage where we can invent things like internet forums and keyboards.

pointless wrote:

Why not lead by example?

Because your missus makes one hell of a breakfast.

Pauly™ wrote:

Lots of win in the last few posts.

Remember its lies because Opinion outweighs scientific understanding and advancement.

pointless wrote:

Not at all.

The human brain represents about 2.5% of our body weight, but accounts for 22% of our total energy expenditure.  Compare with anthropoid primates which use 8% of their energy for their brain, or other mammals which use 3-4%.

All this energy simply cannot have come from uncooked vegetables, and the human brain evolved to it's large and energy-intensive state long before the advent of agriculture (a mere 10,000 years ago, so the energy to power our brains could not have come from cereals or grains either.

Meat, with it's high calorific return, was the thing that allowed humans to spend more energy on their brains.

If early humans were vegetarians, we would never have evolved to a stage where we can invent things like internet forums and keyboards.

Now you're just talking about mass and matter.  An elephant may have a big body (mass), does it follow that it also has a big brain?  If a brain has the capacity for total usage, does it automatically follow that it is totally used?

Human science has told us we use somewhere between 6% and 10% of our brains ability.  Surely the 6% or 10% already being used can identify the possibilities of the remaining percentage?

Where does that leave us on the evolutionary scale?