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I don't want to put on lots of weight as fat.
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Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 8:50 pm - Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 9:14 pm
well that really depends on you whole diet
but yes if it fits in with the rest, itis fine.
what type of protein are you using now ?
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- Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 9:22 pm
Just Whey Protein. It says that 2 scoops is 120g so i have half a scoop before and after workout. I might consume more as weeks go on.
Started my diet today, it's going ok. Don't want anything TOO strict though.
- Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 11:33 pm
Like Martone says, it depends on your diet as a whole. If you are eating lots of fish, meat, pulses etc, then you'll probably be okay without unless your lifting quite a lot (in terms of regularity AND weight). If you have limited protein in your diet, use whey.
I find it amazing that people have such a casual approach to their diet but are prepared to use supplements. What's the point if you aren't even sure how your diet is looking after you????
GamblinMan hath returneth. - Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 11:53 pm
Well, today i've had:
Wheatabix (2 blocks)
Subway - Steak and Cheese, 6 inches with Tomato, Cucumber and Lettuce on Wheat bread.
Whey Protein - 60g
4 slices of Wholemeal bread.
One Orange.
One Kiwi.
Pineapple Jelly (Raw)
Spaghetti Bolognese
Tin of Sardines
I just want to try and keep this up...at least for a month, then see what gains are made.
Last edited by VeryBigEd, Mon 6th Oct 2008, 11:55 pm. - Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 12:10 am
If that is typical, ease up on the carbs. You'll pile on the pounds in all the wrong places if you load up like that unless you are obsessively committed to working your ass off for hours each day.
GamblinMan hath returneth. - Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 9:06 am
bucho would you count whey as a supp or food ?
also i high doubt 2 scoops is 120g worth of protein, unless they are massive scoops. a good rate for ratios is per 100g serving you get 70g protein. so in that case 2 scoops is more than lily going to be 70g making your half scoop very little.
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- Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 9:14 am
I look at everything I take in in terms of it's value as a food. I must admit, I try to keep it quite basic (not getting into the realms of vitamin breakdown etc), but I do keep a daily log based on a 45-40-15 split (carb-prot-fat), which I believe serves my training plan well. Even something this basic can mean quite a bit of chasing around finding out info, and measuring my foods prior to cooking.
I honestly believe anyone taking whey and similar without any real monitoring of their diet is likely to be creating nothing more than expensive piss. If anyone logs their diet properly for a week or so, they're normally staggered at the results.
GamblinMan hath returneth. - Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 4:22 pm
gram for gram protein powder is the cheapest form of protein and also (dependant on brand) is a better spectrum. unless you eat a meal of 75g chicken, 75 beef and 3 eggs with maybe some bcaa's
anyway my question was, whey isit food or a supp, in your eyes?
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- Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 10:37 pm
Gram for gram, it's cheaper, but I think the nutrients from good food outweigh those whey give.
I see whey as a supplement. I'd never use it to replace a part of my diet, so it can only be a supplement for me.
GamblinMan hath returneth. - Posted: Wed 8th Oct 2008, 9:36 am
intresting, would you count milk or cheese as supps?
as that is all whey is.
i count it as a food adn tbh i would sooner have it over tuna and sevral other sources.
saying that i get a lot of my protein from eggs and mince.
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- Posted: Wed 8th Oct 2008, 10:00 am Aren't you meant to have the protein after you've trained only?
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- Posted: Wed 8th Oct 2008, 11:14 am
xBitchAssx wrote:
Aren't you meant to have the protein after you've trained only?Prior to and Post training to recover.
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I do believe I've got flare ,I got speed and I walk on air - Posted: Wed 8th Oct 2008, 10:07 pm
you should have protein with evrey meal.
must be a huge scoop for it to be that, i think he has mis read.
finally, depends what your goals are, i wouldnt have carbs before SSCV would have them before HIIT though. also protein as it stops the breakdown of muscle and the chance of you going catabolic.
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- Posted: Wed 8th Oct 2008, 10:12 pm
Martone wrote:
intresting, would you count milk or cheese as supps?
as that is all whey is.
i count it as a food adn tbh i would sooner have it over tuna and sevral other sources.
saying that i get a lot of my protein from eggs and mince.
I guess you could look in terms of the definition of "supplement", and say that anything you utilize as part of a regular dietary intake is NOT a supplement. I see your point, it is a grey area. Certainly whey isn't a supplement like a pill is, but the way many use it (to simply supplement their protein intake, rather than as a regular part of their diet) renders it a supplement.
I've taken to eating tinned mackerel fillets quite a bit, but obviously there's the risk with heavy tinned fish intake. It's sometimes quite laborious making sure you eat enough, eat right and monitor certain pitfalls, so using whey is a good way to simplify.
As for the points about when to use whey, the opinions from one expert to the next vary quite a bit, but I tend to believe that the body is designed for regular small intakes of nutrients and food, rather than loading at certain, specific times. As long as you work out with some regularity, keep the diet split quite evenly (in terms of food types and time of meals) and you shouldn't go too far wrong. I don't believe the body benefits from excessive intakes of anything at specific times. Check out the works of David Jubb to take that further. Basically, you shouldn't give the body too much of anything at once as it has to work extremely hard to utilize and break down nutrients. Just before and just after a workout seems especially bad timing. Try limiting the food intake to almost the point of keeping your body on "tickover" and you should see dramatic increases in energy for workouts.
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