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Back to General Discussion Vegetarianism + Enviormentalists
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Posted: Mon 18th Aug 2008, 8:49 pm 1337 []D05te|2
Dr. Nobody wrote:
Things were rocky and then when we finally decided to get intimate, I discovered something very unexpected. Apparently, she hasn't finished her "transformation" and still has a penis. Now I love her even more.
- Posted: Mon 18th Aug 2008, 9:07 pm
How many vegetarians does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
I don't know, but where do you get your protein?How many vegans does it take to change a lightbulb?
None, vegans can't change anything.How many meat eaters does it take to change a lightbulb?
None, they would rather stay in the dark about things.Dee
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- Posted: Tue 19th Aug 2008, 10:14 am
Noogle wrote:
Thats a good link, I think the people arguing meat eating benefits don't mean that meat alone helped human evolution. Obviously a diet of all nutrition is what helped our evolution not just one set of food sources.
''Science is interesting if you don't agree, you can just fuck off.''
Richard Dawkins quoting a Science magazine, 2008.
- Posted: Tue 19th Aug 2008, 10:24 am Being pedantic but they shouldn't really show pictures of potatoes, since they weren't brought into Europe until like the 15th century.
1337 []D05te|2
Dr. Nobody wrote:
Things were rocky and then when we finally decided to get intimate, I discovered something very unexpected. Apparently, she hasn't finished her "transformation" and still has a penis. Now I love her even more. - Posted: Tue 19th Aug 2008, 10:27 am
Pauly™ wrote:
Being pedantic but they shouldn't really show pictures of potatoes, since they weren't brought into Europe until like the 15th century.Haha yeah, maybe we were all pretty dumb until then?
- Posted: Tue 19th Aug 2008, 6:45 pm
Noogle wrote:
I wasn't aware of this research. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
None of us were around 4 million years ago, so nobody can say for certain what it was that gave us the extra energy for our larger brains. Previously it was thought that this energy came from meat, but Dr Nathaniel Dominy has challenged this.
Let's just sit around and wait for the scientific community to make their minds up before we know if we should all be vegetarians or not?
Blasphemy is a victimless crime! - Posted: Tue 19th Aug 2008, 7:03 pm
Skin wrote:
Now you're just talking about mass and matter.
0/10 for comprehension, Skin.
The human brain is more advanced than that of any other mammal, and requires proportionately more energy.
Meat was (likely to have been) an important source of this energy (although starchy foods may be more important than we had previously realised).
No meat (probably)= not enough energy to run our advanced, interweb-inventing superbrains = humans no smarter than chimps.
So meat-eating in our early ancestors was (the best available evidence suggests) pivotal in the development of the human brain (although Dr Nathaniel Dominy disputes this).
Clear?
Blasphemy is a victimless crime! - Posted: Wed 20th Aug 2008, 10:34 am This thread makes me want Steak
I get up when I'm down ,I can't swim but my soul won't drown
I do believe I've got flare ,I got speed and I walk on air - Posted: Wed 20th Aug 2008, 6:17 pm
Skin wrote:
Now you're just talking about mass and matter.
pointless wrote:
0/10 for comprehension, Skin.
That much eh? lol
Possibly you might like to include the rest of that particular post for context? Just an idea
- Posted: Thu 21st Aug 2008, 8:35 am
Skin wrote:
That much eh? lol
Possibly you might like to include the rest of that particular post for context? Just an idea
With hindsight, I should have quoted more of your post. Each sentence provides evidence that you have failed to comprehend the significance of meat-eating in the development of the human brain...
Skin wrote:
Now you're just talking about mass and matter.I was talking mass and energy. Really, mass is pretty irrelevant, and I'm sorry if I confused you by bringing mass into the discussion at all.
Skin wrote:
An elephant may have a big body (mass), does it follow that it also has a big brain?It doesn't matter. Elephants have bigger brains than humans. Yet when you see elephants playing football, it's clear that they cannot grasp the offside rule. An elephant uses only around 3-4% of it's total energy on it's brain. The energy elephants get from the plants they eat is used solely for walking about, eating food, spraying themselves with water, flying and having hot elephant sex. They do not have enough energy left to power a brain that can invent nuclear weapons, Chicken McNuggets, Big Brother and Usher CDs. Perhaps if they started eating meat, elephants could support a brain which uses 22% of their total energy.
Skin wrote:
If a brain has the capacity for total usage, does it automatically follow that it is totally used?It doesn't matter. What is important is not what fraction of it's total capacity the human brain uses, but rather how much energy it uses. The human brain uses a lot of energy. This energy has to come from somewhere. Human beings get their energy from the food they eat. A meat-free diet is unlikely to have given our ancestors enough energy to provide for such a demanding brain and to do all the other things they did back in the day such as walking about, wearing loincloths, swinging from vines, grunting, hitting women over the head with clubs, drawing stickmen, and having unsatisfying caveman sex.
Meat was pivotal in the development of the human brain.
Skin wrote:
Human science has told us we use somewhere between 6% and 10% of our brains ability. Surely the 6% or 10% already being used can identify the possibilities of the remaining percentage?Irrelevant.
Skin wrote:
Where does that leave us on the evolutionary scale?Right at the top.
Blasphemy is a victimless crime! - Posted: Thu 21st Aug 2008, 9:23 am
pointless wrote:
I wasn't aware of this research. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
None of us were around 4 million years ago, so nobody can say for certain what it was that gave us the extra energy for our larger brains. Previously it was thought that this energy came from meat, but Dr Nathaniel Dominy has challenged this.
Let's just sit around and wait for the scientific community to make their minds up before we know if we should all be vegetarians or not?
Even if the scientific community said Starch foods did more impact doesn't mean meat should be ruled out when you need it for Iron and muscle mass development.
''Science is interesting if you don't agree, you can just fuck off.''
Richard Dawkins quoting a Science magazine, 2008.
- Posted: Thu 21st Aug 2008, 10:26 am Read a quality book about the evolution of the mind the other week, it was called How Homo Became Sapiens: On the Evolution of Thinking, by Peter Gardenfors (sp?) quality, quality book.
1337 []D05te|2
Dr. Nobody wrote:
Things were rocky and then when we finally decided to get intimate, I discovered something very unexpected. Apparently, she hasn't finished her "transformation" and still has a penis. Now I love her even more. - Posted: Thu 21st Aug 2008, 11:44 am
pointless wrote:
With hindsight, I should have quoted more of your post. Each sentence provides evidence that you have failed to comprehend the significance of meat-eating in the development of the human brain...
You really should cut down on the speed mate. Some funny parts though!
- Posted: Thu 21st Aug 2008, 11:47 am
Pauly™ wrote:
Read a quality book about the evolution of the mind the other week, it was called How Homo Became Sapiens: On the Evolution of Thinking, by Peter Gardenfors (sp?) quality, quality book.Then you're the man with the answer. What was his take on meat eating in terms of brain development?
