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Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 10:02 pm I'm looking for a new pedal (the Behringer range, I like them and they're cheap), and I want a sound sort of.... Bullet for My Valentine or Children of Bodom style, and I haven't got a clue which one to go for 
I have an Ultra Metal pedal but that just sounds thrashy/grungey, I want something more... squealy (for lack of a better way to put it, lol).
Any thoughts?
Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 10:33 pm Funnily enough, I only just bought a new effects pedal.
Bought a Boss ML-2 Metal Core, a bit pricey, but hopefully be worth it =)
I will let you know if it's any good when I get it.
Posted: Mon 6th Oct 2008, 10:38 pm eek
Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 12:55 am Things that will shape your tone:
Guitar woods/construction.
Pickups
Strings
Amp - speakers/tubes/brand etc
Volume (distortion generally gets better as it gets louder)
EQ (e.g. bass/mids/treble/gain/reverb)
Fingers
Pick you're using
Cables
That said you'd be better saving up for a V-AMP if you like that brand and just downloading a CoB patch someone has created.
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Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 1:02 am Also realise Alexi Laiho has thousands of pounds worth of expensive gear behind him, and you can't really get a real tube-amp sound without....well, a real tube amp, as well as his rack gear and other things. Laiho playing through a shit setup will still sound like Laiho, but even he cann't make crap gear sound great.
All you can do is turn the gain right up, take out the lows and boost mids and highs (from the 12'o'clock position) and that's more or less what he does, just with more £££ equipment.
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Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 1:33 am Don't buy an MT-2. The Metalzone has horrible, horrible tone. Also, don't bother spending a fortune on effects if you're going to put them in front of a solidstate amp. Most of the metal tone comes from overdriving the preamp of a tube amp using pedals - if you try the same through a SS, you'll just get a clipping nightmare.
As for actual pedals, I use a Boss SD-1 into an EHX Metal Muff w/ top boost to get any tone from super-clean to squealy death metal. I'm also playing through a Peavey Valveking Royal 8 (5w all-tube) and an Ashdown FA60-DSP 2x12 (60w all-tube).
If you're using a solidstate, look at getting a decent valve combo first. Also, avoid layering your tone with distortion, because it'll hide your mistakes and make your playing sloppy.
Also, look at what Laiho uses - he's got a booster in his guitar, then runs a Jackson preamp into a Marshall head, which feeds a shit-hot signal into the Marshall preamp.. and overdrives it to hell. You can't get that without boosters and running a valve preamp hot.
Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 10:29 am Right.... what do ya think... based on the cheaper side of things, I'm not an expert on the guitar (yet, lol) so I ain't forking out £££'s for really flashy stuff if I can't play really flashy 
If I mixed....
(I need a new amp anyway, and this looks sexy for the price).
www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/White-Horse-60W-Tube-Guitar-Amp-and4x8-Cab/8A8
www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Behringer-TO100-Tube-Overdrive/6LG
...and the metal pedal I have is:
www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Behringer-UM300-Ultra-Metal-Pedal/7W0
...that pedal really is awesome for it's price, it's no good for my Westfield strat, because the pickups on that thing are pretty much fucked and it sounds horrible, but my V sounds awesome plugged into it.
What about a Graphics Equalizer pedal?
Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 12:35 pm You don't need a 60w tube head and a cab for practicing for two reasons:
1. That equates to about 120W solidstate.. which is LOUD as fuck.
2. If you're playing at practice volumes, it won't be pushing the valves hard enough, so it'll sound like shit.
For practicing, these really are the tits:
www.gear4music.com/Guitar-and-Bass/Peavey-ValveKing-Royal-8-Guitar-Amp/4KE
They're also seriously fucking loud.
Behringer pedals all sound like ass - avoid them. Look into the EHX Metal Muff, seriously. It's the best distortion pedal in its class, and you can get one for ~£30 on eBay. It's also got a three-way EQ with cut and boost on each.. so you could get away with not having a dedicated EQ pedal.
However, I would recommend trying the Behringer DC9 (I think) Compressor. It's modelled on an EHX compressor, is only £20, and I'll make bad pickups sound tolerable without having to shell out for new ones. Granted, I don't use a compressor myself, but I'm using EMGs in two of my guitars, and high-output passives in the other two, which are already pretty compressed tonally.
Edit: AND.. buy used! Get on eBay or Craigslists, and get this shit for around half price. It depreciates so quickly that you can get awesome bargains.
Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 12:42 pm Thanks 
I'll check out a Cash Converters near me for some pedals, I was on one of their websites the other day and a brand new Line 6 POD (I forgot which one it was exactly) was going for £20 in an auction, really, really wish I had bid on it.
So they'll probably have some other awesomely cheap stuff too 
Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 12:48 pm Posted: Tue 7th Oct 2008, 1:41 pm 1337 []D05te|2
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Posted: Sun 26th Oct 2008, 1:30 am Posted: Sun 26th Oct 2008, 11:32 am 
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Posted: Sun 26th Oct 2008, 11:48 am If you know what you're doing you can get some really good sounds out of the likes of the POD XT. I have one and it has pretty much everything you need just for getting a decent sound at home (Distortion, delay, chorus, etc plus EQ, compression), and again depending on how much effort you put into it, you can get some tones that sound huge when you put it through a halfstack.
It just requires a bit of patience. The vast majority of the presets are totally shite, so you will definately have to build tones from scratch, but that's what you're looking to do anyway it seems.
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